And if anyone wants to report anything to the Information Commissioners Office..
https://ico.org.uk/global/contact_us
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No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!
by stuckinarut2 ina letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
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No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!
by stuckinarut2 ina letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
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Even getting rid of official forms may not be enough, according to this..
Data compliance breach firms face fines of up to £500,000
"From quickly scribbled names on a sticky note to full confidential reports, Shropshire businesses have been urged to check they comply with data protection law or face fines of up to £500,000.
And she said it was not just the risk of financial penalties, with brand damage and loss of reputation also enough to send a company under.
“Everything from a Post-It note with a name and telephone number to client surveys and customer reports must be disposed of under the DPA,” she said.
“Every single person in the UK has a legal right to ask at any point what information you hold on them, whether you still hold it and if not, how it was destroyed.
“If your response does not meet data protection laws, a complaint could be made to the Information Commissioner’s Office and that could result in legal action and a fine anywhere up to £500,000.
Not only that but with breaches published on the ICO’s website for anyone to see, the damage to your business’s reputation and brand could be irreversible and even enough to send an organisation under.”
From January to October this year(2014) alone, a total of almost £1 million in fines has been levied by the ICO on organisations in England, Wales and Northern Ireland for data protection breaches.
Even charities are not exempt from the law.."
http://www.shropshirelive.com/2014/11/19/data-compliance-breach-firms-face-fines-of-up-to-500000/ -
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No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!
by stuckinarut2 ina letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
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Terry:
"What issues are REDEFINING this organization are purely along the lines of "follow the money."
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(For anyone who missed my above posts)
"Some of the main proposals are: introducing fines from data protection authorities of up to €1m (£780,000) or 2 per cent of annual worldwide turnover.."
http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/new-eu-data-protection-laws-a-headache-uk-charities-lawyer-warns/management/article/1321400 -
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No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!
by stuckinarut2 ina letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
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[Sorry, this is my last post now, I'm just trying to lay out some of the main parts of a massive topic. Some may apply to the Watchtower or be useful one day]
"The ISF, working with its members, has identified the top five actions to take.
1- Get your privacy policies, procedures and documentation in order and keep them up to date: data protection authorities will be able to ask for these at any time...
4- Prepare your organisation to fulfil the "right to be forgotten", "right to erasure" and the "right to data portability".
A strategy covering topics such as data classification, retention, collection, destruction, storage and search will be required – and it should cover all mechanisms by which data is collected, including the internet, call centres and paper."
http://www.computerweekly.com/opinion/Security-Think-Tank-What-should-UK-business-do-to-prepare-for-new-EU-data-protection-rules-part1 -
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No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!
by stuckinarut2 ina letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
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For anyone who wants to read about the new data protection laws and what they will mean...
http://www.computerweekly.com/guides/Essential-guide-What-the-EU-Data-Protection-Regulation-changes-mean-to-you -
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No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!
by stuckinarut2 ina letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
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It seems that they could be preparing for the new data protection laws..
" New EU data protection laws could be a "real headache" for UK charities if implemented in their current form, an intellectual property lawyer has warned.
Mike Gardner, head of intellectual property at the law firm Wedlake Bell, said he was telling charity clients they should prepare for the laws before they come into force, which is expected to happen between March and September next year."
"..He said these cases had already had very serious consequences for the sector from both a reputational and a financial perspective. If the new EU laws were implemented in their existing form, he said, charities would face increasing costs and scrutiny and more serious penalties if they got it wrong."
"Gardner cited the proposed obligation for any organisation with more than 250 employees to appoint a data protection officer as an example of how difficult the changes could be for charities, saying it would be an "organisational and administrative nightmare" to comply with this rule alone."
"Some of the main proposals are: introducing fines from data protection authorities of up to €1m (£780,000) or 2 per cent of annual worldwide turnover; bringing in a duty to confess, which will mean that charities will need to notify the authorities of a data breach within 24 hours of becoming aware of it and also notify the individuals whose personal data was affected; and specifying that any charity holding data on any person would have to gain explicit consent if they wished to use that data in any way."
http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/new-eu-data-protection-laws-a-headache-uk-charities-lawyer-warns/management/article/1321400 -
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Dammit Jim, I'm a psychopath not an all loving God!
by Coded Logic inwhen did you discover that the god of bible - and the loving god that you had worshiped your entire life - were not the same?
how did it affect you?.
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Cold Steel:
"In the extra-biblical Book of Jasher, it was the animals who formed a protective ring around the ark once it was loaded. The people wanted to break into the ark, but the lions and other predators prevented them. Yet they, themselves, would later die in the flood. I'd always wondered how Noah kept the people away once the ship was complete and loaded. It's a plausible account, I think."
Adding one ridiculous fairytale on top of another makes it MORE plausible?..
This 'account' only makes God seem worse.
He callously used these creatures, that were about to be murdered by Him for no reason at all.. in order to prevent people from trying to escape the slaughter with their families?
Cold Steel:
"It sounds callous to say now, but our sufferings are but a moment. The animals that died in the flood did not suffer horrible deaths, and there are many others that have suffered much more than the ones in the flood. And people."
Firstly, where you said 'it sounds callous to say'.. That is likely your humanity and sense of compassion talking. It is a shame that religious beliefs can cause people to both ignore those feelings, whilst at the same time inventing a God that embodies such a callous disregard for suffering..
Cold Steel:
"Once one conceives of a just God, the suffering is just something we have to go with for now."
Once one invents a God that is 'just', and yet sees the lives, health and emotions of living creatures as expendable or irrelevant because of the long term benefits (imagined or otherwise)...
Then any and all acts of cruelty and murder could be either justified or dismissed as unimportant.
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For some examples of animal suffering that God not only tolerated but built into the natural world, see here:
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Dammit Jim, I'm a psychopath not an all loving God!
by Coded Logic inwhen did you discover that the god of bible - and the loving god that you had worshiped your entire life - were not the same?
how did it affect you?.
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"6. God will reward those animals who suffer by resurrecting them to eternal bliss.
This view has been put forward by Irenaeus, Athanasius, C.S. Lewis, Jurgen Moltmann and Keith Ward among others.
While this view seems somewhat absurd to many people, it doesn't answer the problem anyway.
Just because someone is rewarded in the future for the suffering he endures in the present does not excuse the one who is responsible for the suffering.
The suffering is still a wrong no matter how much reward is later given."
http://formerfundy.blogspot.in/2010/05/christian-delusion-chapter-nine.html
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For anyone wanting to follow a logical and informative discussion on why a loving God lets animals suffer, this thread is a good read. It was what finally turned me towards atheism..
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/222352/1/Theists-why-does-God-allow-suffering -
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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?
by Smart incan someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.
i am not that clever.
i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Final final bump, scouts honour.. ;)
But this post was SO moving that I really HAD to re-post it from Cofty's thread.
I've edited it slightly for brevity and to just show the parts that apply directly to this topic.
What do YOU feel or think about the concept of a loving God, when you read heartfelt comments like these?..
Humbled said:
"But here is the case for me:
I have seen so much of the suffering of animals.
When I first came to live with my husband on his farm in the Ozark mountains I could not bear the ways that pain and death overtook creatures in the barnyard and woodland.
A stray dog tore through a nest of kittens, a hog waiting for his feed reached sideways to a rooster and munched off shoulder and breast of the bird whose grieving cries were hushed when the hog swallowed his first bite and then ate the rooster's head off.
I heard the strange cries a frog makes as it commences its one-way trip into a blacksnake's belly. The plaintive shriek of a young rabbit when the farm dog lays tender flesh bare with a flick of her teeth. Not to mention the torments of innumerable mice and baby birds for the amusement of generations of barn cats, and horrors more than these..."
(Talking here about having to kill animals at times)
"....But I, I make that end swift and painless.
So that is my case--The dog does not do the same for a chicken. And sadly, he cannot gainsay me.
Obviously it is only fair to say on the dog's behalf that he doesn't have the same resources as I do-- even if he had a disposition toward the chicken as kindly as my own.
But God doesn't have the dog's excuse, does He?
...I am far from a saint. My failures depress me-- but it has served this: to make me all the more suspicious of claims of an all-powerfull all-loving God, who supplies no evidence of a concern equal to my own."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/269000/127/The-Pastor-of-my-Old-Church-Tried-to-Re-Convert-Me-Yesterday